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Planning Board Meeting Minutes 03/11/2008
Town of Catskill Planning Board
Monthly Meeting
March 11, 2008, 7:00 PM

Present: Chairman Daniel Howard-PE, Vice Chairman Peter Gustas, Harry Sacco, Warren Sheridan, Allen Uhler, Larry Federman, Secretary Jennifer Foxe.

Absent: Jack Rivituso.

Chairman Dan Howard opened the meeting with a moment of silent prayer and the Pledge of Allegiance to the flag.

Minutes of the February 27, 2008 meeting were reviewed. Mr. Sheridan made a motion to accept the minutes as amended, seconded by Mr. Federman.

Ayes 6, Nays 0, Absent 1, Motion Carried.

Old Business:

Subdivision SUB-3-2007 CJ Properties LLC, Cairo Junction Rd., Catskill.

Andrew Fetherston is the representative for the CJ Properties LLC. proposed project.

Mr. Howard stated the project was first presented in April of 2007, during that time our Town engineer from Clough Harbour sent a letter to the applicant in May of 2007. In February of 2008 the Board received a response from the applicant in regards to the letter from Clough Harbour. The Board will review and discuss the responses with the applicant and the Town engineers.  

Andrew Fetherston stated the larger portion of the property is approximately 86.5 acres, there is also a 16.5 acre parcel that is part of a adjoining parcel across the street. The proposed project is located in a Residential Agricultural zone on Cairo Junction Road, presently the property is vacant all the buildings from the camp that were existing have been demolished and removed. Mr. Fetherston stated the proposed project will develop approximately 54 acres of the site, on the grading and drainage plans there is a proposed tree line to try and delineate an area to remain compared to an area to be disturbed. The proposed project presently is a total of 40 lots, 39 of them are building lots, and 1 lot will possibly be developed into a recreational area or municipal park on Cairo Junction Road. The proposed development is located on the north side of Cairo Junction Road, there is an abutting parcel continuous on the south side of the road and there is nothing proposed with that parcel. Each lot will be serviced by an individual well and septic, and there are 2 right of ways proposed.

Mr. Howard stated for Mr. Fetherston to review Chapter 138 in the Town of Catskill law for road requirements.

Mr. Fetherston stated in regards to storm water management facilities there will be 4 water basins on the property, there are two areas on the property with small portions of road way. Swirl chambers were developed in those areas to sub surface infiltration. Additional perk testing will need to be conducted. There is an existing pond and federal wetlands on the property, at this time there is just over a 1/10th of an acre showing wetland disturbance, they are in the process to reduce this impact.  A full drainage report has been submitted for the project file.

Mr. Howard stated upon pending approvals the Board needs to have a proper agreement put in place to ensure the roads are properly maintained for the future, such as deeds or a homeowners agreement the town can municipally enforce. The next step is for the applicant to have the necessary testing conducted, and determine ways to eliminate the disturbance and any other potential impacts.

Mr. Fetherston stated he will submit a report for the condition of the wetlands.

Mr. Howard stated our Town engineer and attorney will determine a sufficient amount of escrow that needs to be submitted to cover the costs throughout the review of the project. Once the additional escrow has been received, the engineer and attorney will conduct their reviews and pending their comments the Board can then proceed.

Subdivision SUB-02-2008 (Minor) Enrico Ribet , 1030 Route 23A, Catskill.

Mr. Ribet submitted revised plans for the Board to review.
Mr. Howard stated the project is along a state highway, NYS DOT will be sent a copy of the plans for their comments on the proposed project. Mr. Howard also requested the applicant provide the Board with a letter identifying the sight distances and stopping sight distance.

Mr. Gustas made a motion for the Planning Board to declare lead agency on the project, seconded by Mr. Sacco.

Ayes 6,  Nays 0,  Absent 1,  Motion Carried.

Mr. Federman made a motion to hold a public hearing for Subdivision SUB-02-2008, seconded by Mr. Sacco.

Ayes 6,  Nays 0,  Absent 1,  Motion Carried.

The Public Hearing was set for April 08, 2008 at 7:15 PM.

Subdivision SUB-05-2008 (Minor), Michael Carlson, Five Mile Woods Road.

Mr. Carlson submitted documentation from Scott Lane regarding the soil samples that the Board requested at the last meeting.  Mr. Carlson stated after the last meeting he met with Alfie Beers the Superintendant of Highways to visit the proposed site and discuss the roadway issue and sight distances out to Five Mile Woods Road.

Mr. Howard stated the Board needs to see a road maintenance agreement that ensures the road will be maintained in the future, and recommended for the applicant to provide documentation stating their intentions on building a road that meets the Town specifications, a letter from Mr. Carlson’s attorney, and a copy of the deeds for review.

Mr. Carlson stated he will continue to build the road according to town specifications, and resubmit a revised subdivision application to the Board upon approval of the road.

Subdivision SUB-04-2008 (Minor), Ronald Smith, 164 Ufferts Road, Catskill.

Mr.Conklin submitted revised plans for the Board to review.

Mr. Howard stated at the last meeting there were some pending issues regarding the roadways. After briefly discussing the revisions with the applicant the plans appear to be sufficient for further review by the Town’s attorney.

The Board asked the applicant to be present at the next meeting, to discuss the comments from the attorney’s review and proceed with the project.

Subdivision SUB-01-2008 Richard Justy, 93 Justy Drive, Palenville.

Mr. Justy is applying for a minor 2 lot subdivision, the applicant submitted plans before the Board.

The Board used the minor subdivision checklist to review the plans to ensure everything is properly identified.

Mr. Justy stated there is more than one single family dwelling on the parcel and is in violation with the Code Enforcement office, the parcel has to be subdivided to bring it into compliance.

Mr. Howard asked the applicant where the property would have access to a road.

Mr. Justy stated he has access to a private road that he does not own, which was a verbal agreement with the owner of the road when Mr. Justy bought the property many years ago.

Discussion ensued regarding the access to the property.

Mr. Howard stated the Board needs to guarantee there is access from the proposed lot onto the road, which appears to be in question. The Board cannot approve a subdivision that creates a landlocked parcel.

Mr. Howard recommended Mr. Justy discuss the issue with the person that owns the road, and provide something in writing to the effect of approved access of this roadway. There is a situation that needs to be rectified with an existing house, and the project needs to follow the Town code to continue the process of this subdivision. Mr. Howard also stated the plans have to be revised showing only the lots proposed.

Subdivision SUB-06-2008 Allen Hirsch, 424 High Falls Road Ext, Catskill.

Bob Ihlenberg is the surveyor representing the project for Mr. Hirsch.

Mr. Ihlenberg stated there are 2 building on the property being used as residences, and the property needs to be subdivided.

Mr. Howard stated the plans show a shared driveway, and the Town code does not allow shared driveways. The applicant will have to review his options addressing the roadway.

The Board reviewed the plans that were submitted.

Mr. Howard stated the Board needs to see a revised plan showing the road built according to Town specs or address the lot lines, identifying the septic, and names of abutting owners.

Other Business:

With no further business to discuss Mr. Gustas made a motion to adjourn, seconded by Mr. Federman.

Ayes 6, Nays 0, Absent 1, Motion Carried.

Meeting Adjourned 9:17 PM.

Respectfully Submitted,

Jennifer Foxe
Planning Board Secretary

Approved as Amended 3/25/08.



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